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Mar 15, 2004 10:04:10 GMT
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Found this whilst going through some old photos,.. any ideas???  |
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REAL mystery car!DarrenW
@darrenw
Club Retro Rides Member 74
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Mar 15, 2004 10:13:11 GMT
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Wow! Erm, no... For some reason the initials HRG are popping into my head but I've really no idea...
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Mar 15, 2004 10:34:09 GMT
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Wow! Erm, no... For some reason the initials HRG are popping into my head but I've really no idea... There's certainly some similarity...the one in this pic (below) of only 4 produced. With such low production figures it's unlikely all the bodies would be identical.  In other words...I think Darren's right. |
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Mar 15, 2004 10:37:15 GMT
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Very interesting,.. I've had that photo for years, never knew what the car was,..
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REAL mystery car!DarrenW
@darrenw
Club Retro Rides Member 74
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Mar 15, 2004 10:43:01 GMT
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In other words...I think Darren's right. WOW! That was a complete stab in the dark guess from somewhere RIGHT in the back of my brain... |
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Mar 15, 2004 10:46:57 GMT
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Do you two remember the picture of the 750 Special I put up on VZi a while ago?? I found out what that was as well thanks to the internet,.. It was a Cowley special (version 3) build my a Mr.Cowley currently raced by his son. I love the internet!
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Mar 15, 2004 10:48:33 GMT
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Very interesting,.. I've had that photo for years, never knew what the car was,.. The suspense isn't over yet...  This is a Frazer-Nash! ^ There is a link...Ron Godfrey (the G in HRG) made cars with Archibald Frazer-Nash (GN cars) back in the '20s. I've only learnt all of this within the last 10 minutes though! What do we think then? Frazer-Nash or HRG...or something else? |
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Mar 15, 2004 10:55:56 GMT
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Fraser-Nash it is,.. the grill, the scoop, spot on.
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Mar 15, 2004 11:06:02 GMT
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I think we may now have the answer...this might be the lead we needed: www.frazernash-usa.com/fnarchiv.htm . Being as the grille on this particular FN (if that's what it is!) differs from the regular Mille Miglia grille:  Have we narrowed it down to the actual car? Is this S/N 421/100/124? I think it might be. Maybe you should contact the site owner HotWire? I'm sure he'd love a copy of the pic, if it is the same car. |
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REAL mystery car!DarrenW
@darrenw
Club Retro Rides Member 74
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Mar 15, 2004 11:11:03 GMT
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Yeah Frazer-Nash...
Seems I'm not as good as I thought I was! ;D
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Mar 15, 2004 11:14:55 GMT
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Have we narrowed it down to the actual car? Is this S/N 421/100/124? I think it might be. Maybe you should contact the site owner HotWire? I'm sure he'd love a copy of the pic, if it is the same car. Impressive detective work,.. very impressive. Wonder if its the actual car or a replica? |
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Mar 15, 2004 12:07:03 GMT
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I'm inclined to think it's the actual car. I don't think it's important enough to replicate and the text (in my link) does say the car is now in England...it all fits together quite well.
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Mar 15, 2004 13:15:08 GMT
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I email the secretary of the Frazer Nash Section : www.frazernash.co.ukFingers crossed he'll be able to shed some light on it. |
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A very nice man at the Frazer Nash Section got back to me. Seems Rmad was right on the money. It would appear to be a Mille Miglia model with the earlier style square radiator grill. There were only 4 of this early model, produced late-1949 to mid-1951, and each is a little different. I can therefore say with some certainty that this is the 4th one, chassis 421/100/124 which was sold new to the USA in July 1951. It stayed there for most of its life and was raced by various owners including Karl Ludvigsen (author of several motoring books). It finished 14th in the 1953 Sebring 12-hour race. In 1997 it came back to the UK and was sold to John Coombs (Jaguars etc) who had it fully restored. It is now back in the US with its original 1951 owner! He also attatched a picture of it from when it was being restored :  |
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What a bunch of buffers we are! A single picture...and we narrowed it down to one car. We even got the chassis number!
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