Charlie - I picked this up off the 309 Owners forum so if you saw it on there chances are it's this one. I really shouldn't have bought it, but couldnt resist
Dan - my heater is stuck on hot and the previous owner included the heater panel in the sale. I'm yet to pull it out to check what's gone wrong, but it feels like the cable isn't moving so perhaps somethings snapped on the back of the panel? Suffice to say the drive home in August when I got it was toasty! Not sure if it's a common problem for the panel to play up though.
Ah right. I see.I think mine's prob the motor going south, as its now starting to make a lot of funny noises.Just in time for the snow!
Bit of progress made with the 309 today. Finally got the starter motor swapped over. I changed it for a cheap second hand one, however it's from a later model so it's smaller, lighter and supposedly more reliable. The difference is clear when it's put next to the original starter:
Needed a slight modification to the soleniod wiring, but other than that it's a direct replacement.
The other job was to give a inlet manifold a clean. At 20 years old plenty of nasty oily deposits had built up, and this is one of my pet hates, so I wanted to make sure the throttle plate and air galleries were all clean to eliminate this from causing the rough idle. This muck was all over the inside of the throttle body:
But a bit of time with some carb cleaner and its now spick and span!
Also managed to repair the SAD hose so hopefully no more air leaks. So put it all back together with a new inlet manifold gasket and voila....
Didn't let it warm up as I need to top up the coolant and bleed the system, but it's never idled that steadily - it's normally just stalls so you have to keep your foot on the throttle for the first couple of minutes. The SAD also appears to be doing it's job by raising the idle whilst cold which is good. And in the 4 or 5 times I restarted it the new starter is working perfectly. All in all a productive few hours!
Nice, looks like you've got a good one to be honest, the rust under the seat is nothing compared to most mine had a LOT of welding. If you go on the 309 forum there is a link to a company in scotland who still sell replacement panels for the head light surround. If you go gti 6 get a solid lower engine mount and you wont have to cut/ bend the seam of metal that joins the bulkhead to the chassis. these are great fun and hop eyou enjoy it
The holes next the handbrake are the rear mounting points for the seat, so that will need sorting too. I will get the MOT sorted and then book it in with a local garage for the welding. Getting a new front panel sounds promising, will look into that at some point.
In other news I sent a request off to the DVLA a few months back to get hold of any history they have on the car. Last week a big envelope arrived with details of all the former keepers and the original registration documents. It was sold by Nicholsons in Nottingham to a local chap. Some internet digging has revealed he still lives at the same address so I've written him a letter asking if he has any old documentation or photos. Not expecting a reply, but you never know! Would be interesting to get a bit of background history on the car!
I'm going to be changing the badly colour coded front bumper on mine soon with a standard finish one & am slightly concerned at what I'll find behind it!
I'm looking at for a set of Goodwood wheels as that'll work out more cost effective, but if I don't find any I'll get the current wheels refurb'd in the proper colours. It's not a Goodwood without these wheels IMHO...
Will also be looking for the optional steering wheel and gear knob:
this was mine in 99/2000-i was 2nd owner! 38k on the clock!....bought it off a guy that worked at peugeot in the motorsport dept. had full goodwood interior, lowered, funky cam, itg filter and peugeot developed exhaust amongst other things. rolling roaded at 184bhp so a proper sleeper it came with a set of goodwood rims too-fitted those not long after these pix were taken and wrote it off a few days later-unbeknown to me or the seller torsion bar had a hairline fracture and gave way on a corner doing just under 40mph. ended up on my side with a fubared car
anyways - apologies for shonkier than the shokiest of shonky photos of photos....i must buy a scanner lol!
Last Edit: Jan 10, 2013 10:18:02 GMT by orangecords
In other news I sent a request off to the DVLA a few months back to get hold of any history they have on the car. Last week a big envelope arrived with details of all the former keepers and the original registration documents. It was sold by Nicholsons in Nottingham to a local chap. Some internet digging has revealed he still lives at the same address so I've written him a letter asking if he has any old documentation or photos. Not expecting a reply, but you never know! Would be interesting to get a bit of background history on the car!
Well, I take it back. I got an email from the original owner, which was shortly followed up with this in the post:
This is Paul, the original owner, at a Peugeot members track day at Silverstone when the car was 3 months old. Great to see the car was doing what it was designed too, even at such an early age! Maybe one day I'll get chance to take it back there
Unfortunately that won't be any time soon though as progress is somewhat slow! Managed to track down a few more parts recently though, so just need to find a bit of time (and some better weather) to get on with it.
Finally a bit of progress. Decided to get the interior sorted out today - not the most important job, but it was depressing seeing it in such a state whenever I went in to the garage. Plus it is something that needed to be done for the MOT anyway. So this is how we start:
So, on top of putting everything back together (after my failed carpet swap attempt) I also need to repair the rear quarter windows. These remotely open using a nifty lever/cable system, but unfortunately this was not in the best health meaning the off side window didn't close properly. Although I've got a few spares knocking around I've decided to ditch the remote opening windows for now and just use a simple latch. This is the clever remote latch:
You can see the cable looping round into the rear quarter panel, it's then routed down the side of the rear seats, along the floorpan and into the lever mechanism in the centre console. Firstly the mounting points need drilling out as some sort of weird rivet was used, then the replacement latch could be fitted:
As you can see it's a lot simpler! Fortunately the mounting holes all line up so it was just a case of bolting the replacement latch on and replacing the attachment on the window. I think this replacement came off a 205 and is a bit stiff. I managed to source one brand new latch and that went on the near side:
This one is much nicer to use! You can see the original cable hanging out in the pic - I've just tucked this away for now. One day I'll revisit this issue and will try to get the remote opening windows working again - they're quite useful when you have no one in the back to do it for you!
With that sorted I started getting the rest of the interior back together. Not quite there yet, but it now looks like this:
Although, with a recently acquired Goodwood-specific item, I now have the choice of the interior looking slightly different....
If I'm honest I've never been convinced about the optional wooden steering wheel and gearknob, but it's what the car had originally so it's nice to finally get my hands on them! On top of this 5 of these babies will be arriving shortly:
No idea about the internal electrickery of the starter motor, all I know is that it was much easier to fit and it works. And with a new uprated battery it now works even better
Bit more work done today, which should make a big difference to how the car drives. On the drive home from Kent all those months ago when I bought it there was an interesting handling trait where the car tried change lanes by itself at motorway speeds whenever you accelerated. I recognised this instantly from my old 205 Dturbo as worn wishbone bushes, which allows the wishbone to move as force is transmitted through the suspension on acceleration, this causes a slight movement in the wheel geometry which pulls the car to one side. I could have just changed the bushes, but as at least one of the wishbones was looking a bit tired I decided to buy a new pair.
First job was to get the old wishbone out, which essentially involves removing the wheel then undoing 4 nuts/bolts. Needed a bit of leverage to separate the wishbone from the hub carrier though:
Notice the red springs - I assume these are lowering springs as I didn't appreciate how low the car was until I tried to get a jack underneath! Eagle-eyed readers will also spot that the metal coolant pipe ideally also needs replacing, along with the track rod end - more jobs for the To Do list. Once out it was clear what was causing the wayward handling:
And new vs old:
Both sides are now done, so I'm hoping the old girl will be much nicer to drive now. We'll find out one the way to the MOT at some point in the near future!
Getting there and it'll look much better with those wheels on Liking the steering wheel too, I had one in mine and can only remember that it was liking holding a lump of ice on a cold morning Did look good though!
Well, the wheels are now on and after a quick wash this is how the car looks:
Not too shabby!
Also took the opportunity to have a nose at some potential rust issues underneath. Worst bit is at the rear of of the off side sill:
It'll probably mean removing the fuel tank to sort it, but shouldn't be too much of a problem. Hopefully it's not an MOT fail, so I can the car roadworthy then take it to a welder to get this done properly along with the 2 headlamp panels and any other little repairs that are needed.
Quick update for today. Didn't have much time out in the garage so didn't attempt the exhaust with all it's rusty bolts, but instead decided to start sorting some of the things which will make the car easier to live with. First on that list was the locks - the car came with 2 keys (one for the doors, one for the ignition and nothing for the boot), and the passenger door lock didn't even work. Not ideal when I eventually want to start taking the car out. Now, I sorted the remote locking quite a while ago by canibalising some parts from a 405, but I also want all the locks working off one key.
So job today was to sort the drivers lock. It's had some crappy, cheap non-OEM locks fitted at some point, but I've sourced a full set of standard locks on 1 key (albeit second hand). After messing around with the Leon's and Monaro's inner door working in the last few months the 309 was a joy to work. Just look at the access:
Removing the lock is a simple case of popping this clip off:
Add with a bit of wiggling to get the control leaver off the lock is out. Reassembly is the reversal of removal as Mr Haynes would say, and that's one door done. Only one slight problem is that I've now made the key situation worse:
Eventually I'll just be left with one remote key though, which will be nice. Should get that sorted next time I get out to the garage.
A couple of things that narked me whilst doing this though, in every 205 or 309 I've owned why is there always a sticky mess in the door pocket(!):
Nasty! Luckily some carb cleaner dissolved it enough to clean up though. And the other thing that annoyed me is that over the years previous owners have clearly had the door apart (and other parts of the interior), but have either lost or rounded screw heads so the screws holding the trim together are either missing or all different shapes and sizes and some don't even fit. I've replaced a few of them with some spares I found in the garage from previous Peugeots/Citroens but I think I'm going have to make a trip to Peugeot to try and get hold of a correct set of screws to hold the interior together properly! Possibly a bit of automotive OCD creeping in there??