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It is a well-known fact in Australia that,
"If you want to go bush take a Land Rover,
If you want to get back take a Land Cruiser!"
The Land Rovers do have a certain charm to them somehow though. I'd love to have a Series landy some day. Not with the standard engine though, I'd have to have either a Holden engine (very common conversion) or the Rover V8.
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MonzaPhil
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TD5s don't generally rust although some of the early ones are starting to get a bit crusty around their rear ends. The body is very well corrosion proofed but still prone to stupid leaks from sunroofs, windscreens etc. Door latches can be temperamental for locking and unlocking, ACE (active cornering) is great when it's working and does make a considerable difference to the handling but if it goes wrong can be VERY costly (just done a £3600 bill for one). You can ditch the whole lot and fit normal antiroll bars. Air suspension is a marmite thing, I love it but then I look after it, many curse it but probably never even think to clean debris off the air bags or drain water from the compressor. Central locking receiver in the roof can fail leading to erratic plipping, BCU (Body control ECU) can die, it does a variety of things, front windows, fog lamps, roofs, central locking etc. ABS modulator and associated valve block can die, could be £40 fix or £1400....... TD5 engine is pretty good but can kill heads causing diesel in sump, which is bad.... dual stupidmass flywheels fail for a pastime (you'll feel it through the clutch pedal), I'd recommend auto but the gear position switch is not very waterproof and situated under the aircon drain.... these switches are now £380 plus vat! Oil in wiring is normal at 75k and will normallly created a major problem if left at about 120k, it can cause the car to stop and it will throw up lots of lights. Injector harness £50, engine harness £350 or so (genuine) ABS and TC lights usually signal a hub/wheel bearing failure, you won't find any play in them but if you only change a seisor you'll end up fitting a hub anyway shortly afterwards... hubs about £250. Facelift TD5 headlamps get nicked a lot, rear bumper lamps are now £80 which is utter robbery. Fuel economy, expect 25-30 but you can get better. Excesive consumption usually signals a fault, possibly fuel pressure regulator (back of cylinder head), easy enough to do but in a small space. Fuel in coolant from split fuel cooler, expensive job. Coolant pipes below radiator, quite expensive Steering box renewal requires coolant system drain etc, it's an  of a job for what should be a simple task. Just about to change a timing chain tensioner..... head off, sump off, front cover off for a £15 part to be fitted..... I have NEVER had a decent V8 in, they have, without exception, been utter horror stories. I spent today collecting photos of Disco 1s so will pop them up later. HTH |
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MonzaPhil
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Discovery 1/TDi Corrosion issues...... Around the gutters:   No-one ever looks up there, but you should! Alpine lights (roof windows):   Leaks from here will not only rot the boot floor, but also run along the inside of the gutters to rot the roof from the body! Battery tray area and front body mounts:   A pillars, footwells and inner front wings (with wings off):      Bulkhead:  Tail end of sill area  Top of rear arch, below C pillar as a result of leaking roof windows:  Rear body...  These are pics from 2 MOTd cars, the green one (in nearly all pics) is a 1996 model which has been well cared for with one owner, 90k and mega service history, apart from the repair around the roof windows, it could have passed for a new car externally and internally, in fact, I'm going to be fitting its leather interior to my own truck. The white one (with the roof held on by gravity) is our own long-suffering tow tug. It plods on and every year we expect it to be its last. Formerly owned by an olympic rowist or sailingist and had lots of salty boat water corroding it from the top down from roofrack mounted boat transporting shenanigans. Believe it or not, I didn't have one with rusty sills to take pics of. |
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MonzaPhil
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Aug 10, 2012 21:05:30 GMT
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Mileage wise, I wouldn't worry about a TDi, as long as it drives ok and the engine is strong. TD5 can do high mileage but I would stick to around 150k give or take, V8 something well used but not overused, again, just make sure it behaves itself. I would go on body condition and expect to change mechanical bits. Best would be to find a really bashed one which is structurally great and mechanically sound then just swap the body panels. Got a customer making a 4 door as you can just put the 5 door rear quarters etc on the 3 door shell and vice versa.
Go and drive several, look at expensive ones in dealers to get an idea how good they can be. If looked after, they should go on forever.
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Aug 12, 2012 22:48:44 GMT
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It is a well-known fact in Australia that, "If you want to go bush take a Land Rover, If you want to get back take a Land Cruiser!" ^^^^ Thats what all that electronic complexity does for your business's hard won reputation. The less electronics to go wrong the better, so personally i would go for an older model. Don't really know why people slag the 2.0 MPi disco's as much as they do, they honestly aren't anywhere near are bad as people make them out to be + they return reasonable fuel economy, yeah its obvously never going to go as well as a V8 but it'll still tow a heavy caravan or horsebox up as steep a hill as you can imagine without running out of power. You really don't want to be flying about in one of these anyway apart from down a straight motorway... We get a constant 3 miles + per litre from our 3.5 manual carb'd rangie on LPG running about doing stop start, and upto the heady heights of 19 mpg (actual not equivalent) on a very steady run, but like any older vehicle you need to keep up with the maintenance and expect to be doing welding, nothing lasts forever, especially when it gets wet and soggy inside and out on a regular basis. |
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Aug 12, 2012 23:12:15 GMT
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This month's Land Rover Owner magazine has a Discovery buyers guide.
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2004 Chevrolet Avalanche Z71
2005 Mercedes CLK320 Cabriolet
1996 Mercedes C180 Elegance Auto Saloon
1996 Rover 620Ti (Dead fuel pump)
1992 Toyota HiLux Surf
1987 Range Rover Vogue (Rusty)
1992 Range Rover Vogue SE (More Rusty)
2006 Chrysler Grand Voyager
2008 Corsa 1.4 Design
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Aug 12, 2012 23:26:42 GMT
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 id just like to say, this has been in my dads possession for about 6months, was due for scrap, but saved. All we've done is belt change and service, it runs well on bio fuel too. there are good ones out there, having said that my mate just bought a rotbox for £600 |
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Phil H
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Landy Disco? Party time?Phil H
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Aug 30, 2012 10:49:31 GMT
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A Cherokee on petrol costs about the same pence per mile in fuel as a V8 on gas (I know, had both, still got the Jeep...still doing 20mpg) and the 4.0 sounds better than a V8 in my book. Probably going to sell it very soon..
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Aug 30, 2012 11:41:34 GMT
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300TDi owner here, on my 2nd now...would I be bithout one? Would I heck! Mine does everything it should, school runs, shopping trips, I drive it to weddings, it goes up to its wipers in rivers and trudges through deep mud and ruts with no troubles what so ever- its a proper all purpose vehicle. Goes well too with bigger hybrid turbo, big front mount intercooler, decat stainless and pump/boost mods....would go much better with smaller wheels on but not far off the local yobs in their shopping trolleys lol  |
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Aug 30, 2012 23:57:57 GMT
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For a good review I reckon you should visit the LR4X4.com site, they will give you the proper reports on all things disco, rangey and such
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'79 Cossie ran Cortina - Sold
2000 Fozzer 2.0 turbo snow beast
'85 Opel Manta GSI - Sold
03 A class Mercedes
Looking for a FD Ventora - Anyone?
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Sept 3, 2012 22:54:10 GMT
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Biggest problem (as you may have gathered) is rot and corrosion.
Steel was used extensively in the Discovery shell, rather than the traditional ally of most LR products of the time, so they do like to rot.
Engines wise, I wouldn't have anything BUT a V8. But that's personal preference. It's a fabulous engine, but doesn't tolerate poor maintenance well. It needs regular oil changes, or the cmashaft will begin to wear quickly.
As for the Td5 series Discos. They're on the same chassis as a P38 Range Rover.
The Td5 engine itself is brilliant, and to me MUCH better than a Tdi. I took one to 126K miles in my last 110 with absolutely no troubles other than a new oil feed pipe and an engine injector harness.
Again though, I'm a stickler for maintenance, and that was run on Mobil1 with oil changes every 10k miles.
The coil sprung Range Rover/Disco/Defender chassis is one of (if not THE) greatest off-road platforms ever made.
If you get the Landy bug, you'll never touch anything else!
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