Right well the car is getting picked up this weekend and I need to get the parts ready. I still need to buy some bushes for the car as pretty much all of them are shot. Looking to get some off of the bay and this is whats included in the one I'm looking at.
Front Top Wishbone Bush
Front Lower Wishbone Bush
Front Strut Tie Bar
Anti Roll Bar to Chassis Bush 18mm
Anti Roll Bar Link Bush
Steering Rack Mounting Small & Large Trailing Arm/Axle Bush 47mm(ALSO AVAILABLE IS A 43MM AND A 50MM, PLEASE STATE IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THEM FROM A 47MM ON ORDERING) Trailing Arm /Chassis Bush 47mm(ALSO AVAILABLE IS A 43MM AND A 50MM, PLEASE STATE IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THEM FROM A 47MM ON ORDERING)
Rear Upper Arm Diff
Raer Upper Arm Chassis Bush
Axle Mounting Bushes ( Cross Members)
The bits I need help with is what size do I need? The car has the 2.3 rear axle if that helps. Need to buy these on thursday so help needed as soon as poss please!
Failing that if anyone knows where I can get a complete polly bush set for a MK4 cortina, that would be awesome!
EDIT - Also am i being stupid but it doesnt mention the void bushes as both of mine are shot. will i need these as well?
I take it that is a deflex or flowflex set your looking at? I say that cos they allways get the bush sizes wrong It is only the front (chassis end) lower arm bush that comes in 3 differant sizes NOT the axle end, I have told them this so many times I lost count Basicly Mk3 would have been 43 till the facelift then 47, only late Mk5's are 50mm every thing from Mk3 (73 ish) till (81 ish) should be 47mm, at least they were from new, nowdays who knows? axles get swapped all the time so best check but they "should" be 47mm "void bushes" (they are all voided unless S pack or H/D) are the Rear Upper Arm Diff Also check the frobnt ARB cos the 18mm ones are rare only come on S pack cars. Mk3 are 12mm Mk4 are 14mm Mk5 are 16mm S pack cars are 18mm so check before you order
One word of warning, i've found that when you fully polybush a cortina the rear end becomes very hard, the chassis can crack where the lower arms mount AND any small vibration in the running gear will be amplified by all that solid bushing, the design of the rear doesn't lend itself to hard bushing TBH, due to the differant angles of the top and lower arms, the bushes have to twist to allow the axle to rise and fall without binding, hense a fully bushed rear end is very hard (allmost like you've turned spax adjustable all the way up) ni on all cortina tuners and builders use rubber and live with changing the top diff bushes (void bushes) yearly check out buysell and see how many fully poly bushed cortinas return to rubber after the first season of use
If it's an atlas axle it's take it OK as traction will be the issue that stops the axle breaking if it's the weaker Koln axle it''ll last about a week LoL Most 2.3s have the atlas but not all so just check if the diff ciover bolt directly into the diff housing (Koln) or into a flange around the diff housing (atlas) easy to check just run your fingers around the diff housing and feel for a lip around the back of it about 1/2 inch wide some just poly the axle end with no problems, in fact some fully bush em and report no difficultys it really depends on the millage you do, loads of built cats get sold on with no problems and the next owner gets the problems instead, that's when i usually get involved helping sort out cars built by somone else.
Is that the whole lot required for the Mk4? I'm sorry I'm just really rubbish at this and need to get it bought by tomorrow. which one on the list above is the void bush as I might just buy a standard bush to replace to avoid chasis damage.
EDIT - Oh yeah, Bortaf, if your at RR gathering this year i'll certainly have to get you a beer for all your help, its much appreciated.
Yes thst's the lot, the only bushes the don't do are the front X member to chassis bushes, way more expensive but half the problem with the de/flowflex bushes is they decided to change the design to what they thought would be better, not taking into account the Mk3/4/5s need to flex (as i said above), the design of these is the same as standard bushes so not as harsh in thier binding of the susspension. Still too much for me but then i have moobs and like a softer susspension set up
I was about to say, some bushes are better than others.
My 'B is on Superflex bushes on the rear and with the Spax dampers it is actually surprisingly compliant. No real increase and firmness and much more trusting rear end. On the owners' club they seem to think tris Combo is asking for a broken back. This is with them using the Club Poly Bush set generally which is around half the price of the Superflex set. I will admit I did try them on a whim/risk, after a couple of recommendations.
I've been sent the below, but not sure what I need as the chap from super pro has given the complete list. Could someone tell me what I need for the cortina? shes a 1978 Mk4 (was a 2.3GL). Here's the list of stuff. I've numbered them so if you could just let me know which numbers I need that would be awesome.
1 F Control Arm Lower - Inner Bush SPF0262K 1 2B,2T £30.88 2 F Control Arm Upper - Inner Bush SPF1401K 1 4B,4T,4S £98.53 3 F Cross-member To Chassis Mount SPF1547K 1 4B,2T Fr small bush Mk 3-later models on £52.92 4 F Cross-member To Chassis Mount SPF1548K 1 4B,2T Rear large bush Mk 3-later models on £57.92 5 F Strut Bar To Chassis Mount SPF0590K 1 4B,2T Oval hole in chassis £49.92 6 F Strut Bar To Chassis Mount SPF0046K 1 4B,2T Round hole in chassis £24.45 7 F Sway Bar Link Bush Kit SPF2950K 1 8B £16.07 8 F Sway Bar Mount To Chassis Bush SPF1450-_ _K 1 2B Check Bar Diameter - 16, 18 & 20mm available £12.90 9 F Steering Rack & Pinion Mount Bushing SPF1187K 1 2B £20.54 10 R Spring Insulator SPF0208-6K 2 1B Raises vehicle approximately 10mm £10.70 11 R Spring Insulator SPF0208-12K 2 1B Raises vehicle approximately 18mm £10.70 12 R Spring Insulator SPF0208-16K 2 1B Raises vehicle approximately 24mm £10.70 13 R Sway Bar End D Bush SPF2332-16K 1 2B "D" Shape bush in link for 16mm Dia Bar £11.32 14 R Sway Bar End D Bush SPF2332-12K 1 2B Mk3 7/70-8/76&Mk4 8/76-8/79 For 12mm Dia Bar £11.32 15 R Sway Bar End Link Bush SPF1089-12K 2 1B Cotton reel lower bush - 12mm Bar £6.95 16 R Sway Bar End Link Bush SPF1089-16K 2 1B Cotton reel upper bush - 16mm Bar £6.95 17 R Trailing Arm - Lower - Front Bush SPF0847K 1 2B,2T 35.5 wide housing, 43.3 ID - Early MKIII £29.61 18 R Trailing Arm - Lower - Front Bush SPF0276K 1 2B,2T Check size, 47.5mm OD fits original 50mm bush shell - Late MKIII on £32.48 19 R Trailing Arm - Lower - Rear Bush SPF0695-70K 1 2B,2T All Models £36.51 20 R Trailing Arm - Upper - Front Bush SPF0219-80K 1 4B,2T 28mm wide housing, 39mm ID, British built £26.13 21 R Trailing Arm - Upper - Front Bush SPF1087K 1 2B,2T Outer housing 32.5mm, German built or Taunus models £22.46 22 R Trailing Arm - Upper - Rear Bush SPF0219-80K 1 4B,2T 28mm wide housing, 39mm ID, British built & early models - Check housing width £26.13
EDIT - Yeah my post above about buying them was all well and good until they told me it would taek two weeks to get them. Hense trying to use this company now. I'm a newbie at all this so sorry to be a pain in the A***
That's ok i've redone the lsit on BSC for you S pack cars is Mk4 2.0S or 2.3S and on the Mk5 they offerd an S pack you chose sports parts from, my old estate was a 2.3 GhiaS basicly a ghia with S pack (18mm) ARBs and a pair of spot lights lol you could get an LS GLS or GhiaS, H/D is estate cars with heavy duty rear suspension they had thicker ARBs and non voided bushes in the axle
See you do learn stuff everyday. Well as mine was originally a 2.3 GL auto i reckon it had the standard set up. Now is just need to know what sizes on the list as numbers 8, 13, 16, 18, 20, 22 on the list you've narrowed it down to all mention sizes etc. Think i've been quoted £370 for the lot, OUCH!!!!
Unfortunatly not mate it's the diameter of the hole. I'll look see if i have a 16mm ARB but i sold all my 16s & 18s last year during a clear out, pluss the 18's are hard to find. They do 16mm ones so a MK5 ARB might be the sest bet and it'll handle better as well
I've just got back from the yard after measuring the ARB and the rod is 16mm so i presume i need the 16mm bush. Found a company that can offer powerflex bushes (with 16mm ARB bush) for just over £200. doesnt seem to bad as superfex were going to charge £430 for the lot.
I've just got back from the yard after measuring the ARB and the rod is 16mm so I presume I need the 16mm bush. Found a company that can offer powerflex bushes (with 16mm ARB bush) for just over £200. doesnt seem to bad as superfex were going to charge £430 for the lot.
certainly sounds better handy having the Mk5 one already on there as well
yeah, i would have loved to speak to the chap who originally restored the car as there are lots of little secrets i keep finding. I think whoever did the work previously did a propper job too as the gear box looks to be in superb condition. The front cross member also looks brand new. now on a 1978 ford that means it must have been done otherwise it'd be covered in rust by now.